“Found Out About You” is a perfect choice because in the Oprah interview she definitely exposed herself as a liar and a fraud by: - giving different answers than she did to GQ - talking about the importance of God but breaking two of the ten commandments - rambling about truth when she spent years telling lie after lie - claiming she wants privacy in her personal life but the interview created interest in Charlotte so stories appeared identifying the street where she lives and a video clearly showed the number 2901 on the front door so she gave away her address - making it clear she is completely consumed by her appearance saying she posed without pants because she wanted one picture public that showed her as a beautiful woman so her definition of beautiful must be slutty (The Youngs say she’s had plastic surgery and having lived with her for many months they should know. If so, she should get a refund because there was obviously something wrong with the movement of her face.) - saying Edwards was afraid of Elizabeth when he wouldn’t have treated her so badly for years if that were true (She needs to realize the truth is that he is much more afraid of her and what she’ll do with the sex tape if she gets it back.)
She makes Edwards look like a fool in her descriptions of him so they are well matched in that respect. She’s adding nails to the coffin containing his career, dignity and future so it is permanently sealed.
Elizabeth said “It’s a blessing that this woman is not part of my life.” So true! It will be a blessing to the public when this woman slithers back under the rock from which she appeared.
Benny's World readers are extremely perceptive. They know when I'm hinting at something. I am refraining from commenting much here about the interview yesterday for Elizabeth's sake (and because of all of the kids involved), but I will say it was worth watching and I wonder how O show's ratings were as a result of the GDW being on it.
Oprah's website is extremely interesting though as most of the comments were probably not what Oprah nor her guest expected. I haven't been over to HuffPo but my understanding is that the entire interview was posted there in parts.
My slightly revised take on the quote about the duck is: If she looks like a sl*t and acts like a wh*re, she's a sl*re.
I feel sorry for the girl having her for a mother and a washed up, disgraced man who apparently spends his time hanging out in bars getting drunk while trying to pick up strange women for a father - neither of whom has a job or does anything positive with their lives. What values can a sociopath and psychopath teach her?
Elizabeth's quote is great! A jab at both the tramp and the loser husband.
OK, I wasn't going to reply, but I'm just sick of this.
JeanLouise, please put down your copy of the Enquirer for a moment, because if they have any accuracy at all, it's because SHE is their source, and she has been their source all along.
And as is blatantly evident by now, she is about as "accurate" as a Fox News broadcast. The horse's mouth is full of lies.
Tabloid and celebrity IS her "job". Anytime she needs a paycheck, she spins another yarn to the Enquirer. She has a financial, and an emotional, interest in keeping this story going.
There's a sociopath here all right, but it's not JRE. Sociopaths are born that way. All the rewriting of history of the Edwards' lives that's been going on threatens to obscure the fact that *he was once a decent man*. He was once down-to-earth, even "old-fashioned", as EE described him. DC life and his relationship with Young gradually made him more egocentric, but that alone is NOT enough to make a person act as if they've forgotten everything about who they are and what they've stood for.
He underwent a complete personality and character change as a result of the affair, and it makes people uncomfortable to contemplate that. The narrative that he was always rotten to the core, that everything good about him was a facade, just happens to make us feel better because *we believe that of all politicians*.
We don't want to believe that a person we've loved and trusted half our lives can transform into someone unrecognizable. And for good reason: it's one of the most frightening things that can happen to a relationship.
Hanging out too much with a sociopath can make you act like one yourself. I think the worst of him was as a *result* of being with her-- and if, as I suspect, that she played personal-development coach to him, he would have lapped it up that much faster.
Because we have been conditioned to embrace *anything* we are told will make us happier, healthier and wealthier-- and the average American doesn't have the time, energy or inclination to buck authority to resist such a message. How many times has the medical media said that people who have more sex are healthier? That happiness and self-confidence are always good for your health, no mention of HOW we get there or what side effects might come about?
We live in a society where we can be fired for not projecting enough happiness on the job. We will eat it right up if we are told-- or implied to-- that it's for our emotional health.
It's difficult for me, when saying this, not to come across like I'm absolving JRE of responsibility. But when you're being worked over by a sociopath, you may not be acting with informed choice. Particularly if the message you're getting from the sociopath, is that your transformation is good and right and "authentic".
I've noticed that she uses the language of truth and trust to tell lies. And a veneer of niceness and spirituality to inflict cruelty. The cognitive dissonance there is extreme. And it may explain in part why he couldn't break away. His mind, quite simply, was muddled.
We say, from afar, that WE will be able to resist mind games. Then we meet a Machiavellian boss (it's almost always an authority figure) and we watch, dumbfounded, as we act in ways we swore we never would. As we can't make sense of the words, or the actions... and we're too time-strapped and too afraid of running afoul of the people around us to effectively counteract it.
This is not going to convince you to believe any differently about JRE. But I refuse to let slide that he was NOT always like this. Because that's the only way we will learn anything substantive about sociopaths-- or how to prevent our loved ones from turning into Frankenstein.
You missed the point - Hunter is the sociopath and Edwards is the psychopath. He didn't change after the affair but at some point before it because the person you portray him to be wouldn't have sex with a woman he just met on the street.
Your psychobabble, while inaccurate descriptions of these personality disorders, sounds so much like Hunter!
Superior Court Judge Allen Baddour was openly skeptical in a hearing Wednesday that Hunter could possibly have a legitimate expectation to privacy, considering her recently televised interview with Oprah Winfrey and her scantily clad photo spread in GQ magazine.
"Why does she get to try the case in the media and the court," the judge asked Hunter's legal team.
No one ever said she's the brightest bulb in the pack!
That's hilarious! So Hunter gives the interviews to get in Elizabeth's face and it goes right back to blow up in Hunter's face. I hope Elizabeth is getting a good laugh out of Hunter.
Now the tabloid says Hunter wants to marry Edwards and have another kid when his divorce is final. More delusions because can't imagine he'd ever marry her after she exposed and destroyed him, she'll be close to 47 if not older before he could be divorced so unless she's going through more fertility treatments another kid may be out of the question and by the way, Elizabeth hasn't said if she'll file for divorce when the waiting period is up. What a loser Hunter is!
(She says she's a fashion expert but she seems to own one sweater and wears pants that went out of style two years ago. Maybe that's why GQ had her take her pants off! With all her money, she should get a stylist to help her learn how to dress.)
There’s no way to know if these stories are true or not with all the lies the people involved have told. (The tabloid track record on Edwards is good but Hunter also uses them – for money and to hurt Elizabeth more.) What is clear is that the stories aren’t going to stop. For the sake of his children, Edwards needs to man up (finally) and end it.
If he is sneaking off to a cabin in the mountains with Hunter where they sit in front of the fire and she tells him about the wedding plans she’s making with her guru, the $50k ring he’s going to buy her and the second baby she wants to have, the tabloid eventually will catch him with her again. Then there’s a new round of photos and stories to hurt his children. He should publicly say they are in a relationship instead of sneaking around begging to be caught and exposed.
If it’s not true and the only contact they have is via telephone with a third party bringing their daughter to see him, he needs to stop having his friends say it and release his own statement. He needs to tell Hunter the lies she’s releasing through her “friends” stop or the money beyond the child support stops.
It’s possible he’s afraid of Hunter or he’s playing her to get what he wants so he can’t cut off contact with her. Either way the emotional abuse he’s subjecting his children to is inexcusable.
This blog is for my friends and acquaintances who were formerly with the John Edwards campaign, which had the most progressive agenda. I am a progressive liberal, musing about politics and life.
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“Found Out About You” is a perfect choice because in the Oprah interview she definitely exposed herself as a liar and a fraud by:
- giving different answers than she did to GQ
- talking about the importance of God but breaking two of the ten commandments
- rambling about truth when she spent years telling lie after lie
- claiming she wants privacy in her personal life but the interview created interest in Charlotte so stories appeared identifying the street where she lives and a video clearly showed the number 2901 on the front door so she gave away her address
- making it clear she is completely consumed by her appearance saying she posed without pants because she wanted one picture public that showed her as a beautiful woman so her definition of beautiful must be slutty (The Youngs say she’s had plastic surgery and having lived with her for many months they should know. If so, she should get a refund because there was obviously something wrong with the movement of her face.)
- saying Edwards was afraid of Elizabeth when he wouldn’t have treated her so badly for years if that were true (She needs to realize the truth is that he is much more afraid of her and what she’ll do with the sex tape if she gets it back.)
She makes Edwards look like a fool in her descriptions of him so they are well matched in that respect. She’s adding nails to the coffin containing his career, dignity and future so it is permanently sealed.
Elizabeth said “It’s a blessing that this woman is not part of my life.” So true! It will be a blessing to the public when this woman slithers back under the rock from which she appeared.
By Anonymous, at 8:25 AM
The quote that comes to mind: "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
All doubt removed! (Not that there was much doubt before the interview.)
By indyvoter, at 3:03 PM
Benny's World readers are extremely perceptive. They know when I'm hinting at something. I am refraining from commenting much here about the interview yesterday for Elizabeth's sake (and because of all of the kids involved), but I will say it was worth watching and I wonder how O show's ratings were as a result of the GDW being on it.
Oprah's website is extremely interesting though as most of the comments were probably not what Oprah nor her guest expected. I haven't been over to HuffPo but my understanding is that the entire interview was posted there in parts.
By benny06, at 3:12 PM
My slightly revised take on the quote about the duck is:
If she looks like a sl*t and acts like a wh*re, she's a sl*re.
I feel sorry for the girl having her for a mother and a washed up, disgraced man who apparently spends his time hanging out in bars getting drunk while trying to pick up strange women for a father - neither of whom has a job or does anything positive with their lives. What values can a sociopath and psychopath teach her?
Elizabeth's quote is great! A jab at both the tramp and the loser husband.
By JeanLouise, at 10:45 AM
*shakes head*
OK, I wasn't going to reply, but I'm just sick of this.
JeanLouise, please put down your copy of the Enquirer for a moment, because if they have any accuracy at all, it's because SHE is their source, and she has been their source all along.
And as is blatantly evident by now, she is about as "accurate" as a Fox News broadcast. The horse's mouth is full of lies.
Tabloid and celebrity IS her "job". Anytime she needs a paycheck, she spins another yarn to the Enquirer. She has a financial, and an emotional, interest in keeping this story going.
There's a sociopath here all right, but it's not JRE. Sociopaths are born that way. All the rewriting of history of the Edwards' lives that's been going on threatens to obscure the fact that *he was once a decent man*. He was once down-to-earth, even "old-fashioned", as EE described him.
DC life and his relationship with Young gradually made him more egocentric, but that alone is NOT enough to make a person act as if they've forgotten everything about who they are and what they've stood for.
He underwent a complete personality and character change as a result of the affair, and it makes people uncomfortable to contemplate that. The narrative that he was always rotten to the core, that everything good about him was a facade, just happens to make us feel better because *we believe that of all politicians*.
We don't want to believe that a person we've loved and trusted half our lives can transform into someone unrecognizable. And for good reason: it's one of the most frightening things that can happen to a relationship.
Hanging out too much with a sociopath can make you act like one yourself. I think the worst of him was as a *result* of being with her-- and if, as I suspect, that she played personal-development coach to him, he would have lapped it up that much faster.
Because we have been conditioned to embrace *anything* we are told will make us happier, healthier and wealthier-- and the average American doesn't have the time, energy or inclination to buck authority to resist such a message. How many times has the medical media said that people who have more sex are healthier? That happiness and self-confidence are always good for your health, no mention of HOW we get there or what side effects might come about?
We live in a society where we can be fired for not projecting enough happiness on the job. We will eat it right up if we are told-- or implied to-- that it's for our emotional health.
It's difficult for me, when saying this, not to come across like I'm absolving JRE of responsibility. But when you're being worked over by a sociopath, you may not be acting with informed choice. Particularly if the message you're getting from the sociopath, is that your transformation is good and right and "authentic".
I've noticed that she uses the language of truth and trust to tell lies. And a veneer of niceness and spirituality to inflict cruelty. The cognitive dissonance there is extreme. And it may explain in part why he couldn't break away. His mind, quite simply, was muddled.
We say, from afar, that WE will be able to resist mind games. Then we meet a Machiavellian boss (it's almost always an authority figure) and we watch, dumbfounded, as we act in ways we swore we never would. As we can't make sense of the words, or the actions... and we're too time-strapped and too afraid of running afoul of the people around us to effectively counteract it.
This is not going to convince you to believe any differently about JRE. But I refuse to let slide that he was NOT always like this. Because that's the only way we will learn anything substantive about sociopaths-- or how to prevent our loved ones from turning into Frankenstein.
This will probably be my last response here...
By Frances, at 2:18 PM
Frances,
You don't have to read the tabloid to know what Edwards has been reduced to now.
The LA Times and ABC WTVD have both reported on his life today.
You missed the point - Hunter is the sociopath and Edwards is the psychopath. He didn't change after the affair but at some point before it because the person you portray him to be wouldn't have sex with a woman he just met on the street.
Your psychobabble, while inaccurate descriptions of these personality disorders, sounds so much like Hunter!
By JeanLouise, at 3:24 PM
Ha, ha, ha! Hunter was an @ss on Oprah and practically bared her @ss in GQ. Now it's all coming back to bite her in the @ss!
The judge in the sex tape case questioned her claim wanting sealed depositions:
Superior Court Judge Allen Baddour was openly skeptical in a hearing Wednesday that Hunter could possibly have a legitimate expectation to privacy, considering her recently televised interview with Oprah Winfrey and her scantily clad photo spread in GQ magazine.
"Why does she get to try the case in the media and the court," the judge asked Hunter's legal team.
No one ever said she's the brightest bulb in the pack!
By Anonymous, at 9:43 AM
That's hilarious! So Hunter gives the interviews to get in Elizabeth's face and it goes right back to blow up in Hunter's face. I hope Elizabeth is getting a good laugh out of Hunter.
Now the tabloid says Hunter wants to marry Edwards and have another kid when his divorce is final. More delusions because can't imagine he'd ever marry her after she exposed and destroyed him, she'll be close to 47 if not older before he could be divorced so unless she's going through more fertility treatments another kid may be out of the question and by the way, Elizabeth hasn't said if she'll file for divorce when the waiting period is up. What a loser Hunter is!
(She says she's a fashion expert but she seems to own one sweater and wears pants that went out of style two years ago. Maybe that's why GQ had her take her pants off! With all her money, she should get a stylist to help her learn how to dress.)
By JeanLouise, at 4:12 PM
There’s no way to know if these stories are true or not with all the lies the people involved have told. (The tabloid track record on Edwards is good but Hunter also uses them – for money and to hurt Elizabeth more.) What is clear is that the stories aren’t going to stop. For the sake of his children, Edwards needs to man up (finally) and end it.
If he is sneaking off to a cabin in the mountains with Hunter where they sit in front of the fire and she tells him about the wedding plans she’s making with her guru, the $50k ring he’s going to buy her and the second baby she wants to have, the tabloid eventually will catch him with her again. Then there’s a new round of photos and stories to hurt his children. He should publicly say they are in a relationship instead of sneaking around begging to be caught and exposed.
If it’s not true and the only contact they have is via telephone with a third party bringing their daughter to see him, he needs to stop having his friends say it and release his own statement. He needs to tell Hunter the lies she’s releasing through her “friends” stop or the money beyond the child support stops.
It’s possible he’s afraid of Hunter or he’s playing her to get what he wants so he can’t cut off contact with her. Either way the emotional abuse he’s subjecting his children to is inexcusable.
By Anonymous, at 12:34 PM
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